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Tonny Skovgård Jensen (Denmark), Thu 7 Nov
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Discovery questions:
Royal Danish Library; used to be the national aggregator in Denmark; national and university library, quite big (800 people);
He is the Chief Consultant; he works with cultural heritage and data translation projects; CDCHE group Denmark representative
They aren’t very engaged with Europeana and the DS; but open to it
Shadi: Hopefully, the dashboard can be a motivation for them
Though he was surprised by how many items have come form Denmark, especially from SMK
He’s not directly engaged with tracking statistics; occasionally studies them
If Denmark decides to become more involved, then he could see them being interested in the dashboard
Device: Laptop
Browser: Chrome
Usability test:
His asked: does High Quality mean when it was ingested, or no? Fiona: it’s showing now (within last few weeks)
Tried to find Denmark in the country map and country list
The country bar chart doesnt show all countries next to the bars
Took a few seconds to find Denmark in the country dropdown
The top charts were good, easy to understand
Data Progression chart (middle of page)
The line chart is confusing
The target can’t be so low? He was only looking at the 3D one, which is why it was so low
Also switching it on and off is not easy to find and do - needing to click on the year PER COLUMN - he kept forgetting and not understanding how; “I guess it’s meaningful once you get it”; the other coloured lines look like they’re above the target ( better line labelling is needed)
He compares with Belgium - they’re dotted lines
“How do I interact with that?”
The chart is really convoluted when you select multiple data, and multiple countries, and their targets etc
“I guess if you’re really focised on the targets it’s yseful, but we have no ambitions to reach those so its less relevant; it’s more relevant to see the development (the angle of the lines going up or down over time)
“I wonder if you can change the # of years you can see on the x-axis” - I would like to see the progress into earlier years
Clicks ‘Show Data’ on lower right - that shows when the data points came from, started in 2021 when the recommendations came in; that’s when we started measuring)
According to the columns “in show data” the HQ data is decreasing, but the lline chart doesnt show that because it doesnt show 2021 (it should show 2021, “I would like to see a broader timespan”)
The drop in the items - broken links go to tier 0 after an update; or depublished items with broken links;
Image type table
“I was curious about…” in Europeana Sounds the contributed a lot of audio files, some video files;
The x-axis is inconsistently labelled with or without units?
If you click the link in the image type table it’ll take you to Europeana - COOL, NOT OBVIOUS
Data provider table
National Library and Royal Library (x2) are all the same institution now - Fiona to flag with Henning after the meeting
The don’t have the infrastructure to update their metadata for us, they have new links for all of the content but they don’t have the infrastructure to keep track of what they’ve sent to us, and what should be updated, etc.
Danish Agency for Culture is castles and sites, which are very in focus for the recommendtaions (as opposed to the royal library, which of course don’t have many sites)
Theey (and the ministry) are not so interested in 3D scanning - they do it for architects, but that never nakes its way to us? The barrier must be the data model or something, “lack of infrastructure” as he says
Shadi: Why not interested in DS?
We see a value in participating, but Europeana is more a ‘nice-to-have' than a need-to-have
The big institutions that merged, and since they’ve been trying to consolidate all of those different IT systems; every project cxreated their own infrastructure and their own principles, so they’re struggling with all of their own many different systems; still consolidating all of that; that’s why looking outwards to europana is not their top priority
Many changes in the ministry of culture and their agencies; they work in a different way now; not many people in the ministry/agency that are professionally from cultural heritage, unlike many other countries (as he’s seen from the expert group);
Denmark’s big institutions are all focused on digital; it’s just not centrally coordinated
He thinks the recoemmendations are confusing, in tat they pretend that being on Europeana is the most important aspect of digital CH in europe. It can’t be “the” most importat from the ocuntry perspective, since the vast majority of their users are national users; especially when given that Danish is a language that few people outside of Denmark speak. So their local/national users will always be the priority.
Other ppl at Danish institutions that Europeana has played a key role in creating awareness around standards that they in turn use, etc.; but Europeana website itself, not that much of an effect
What would make Europeana not just a nice to have but a need? If some institutions would really invest in 3D it could be;
from the library the work from the concept of collections as data; a lot ofresearchers are using their collections as data; not just one picture or one text, but getting millions of webpages collected over 20 years and they analyse that as a set; text and data mining; machine learning/ai techniques to analyse and use their content. and Europeana expanding into a data space could then be relevant; if danish researchers got to use the new cloud for cultural heritage and got the libraries ocntent through that channel the most easily, that could change things; but he still has an unclear understanding about which new kinds of data will be in the data space? the EPF with metadata specifications they have to adapt to; “collections as data” is always connected to a lot of legal work since most of what they have is in copyright, but is sometimes available for specific purposes if they have special contracts - the data space can support people managing as data owners who gets access to which data; that would be easier if it was through the data space and not the library, which would make the data space more inetersting;
if the ds offer possibility to upload them an ai-produced keywords that they could also use in their own system; if they know it’s in europe and in a secure platform, it’s much easier for them to use
These could be new arguments for more people to participate in the data space; and convinve ministries to give more funding to do so 
They are already acting as an aggregator within denmark, within their own systems; 20,000 broadcasts every month for example; adding to europeana with the specific rights requirements we have is an extra step they just can’t do
35 million newspapers digitised; the OCR quality is a few years old so it could be done much better today; 6-8 million pages of them are public so they could go on Europeana;
Fiona: International audience interesting to you? Most text-based items are probably only most interesting for Danes
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